Stranger_9 (not verified) on March 29, 2008 - 05:46.
For the purpose of what Alabieno is saying the specific game they are copying doesn't matter.
To the contrary, because Abalieno's point is worded very precisely:
If the artist(s) who produced that say that they went for an original style that wasn't trying to replicate *precisely* WoW's style... Well, they would be some of the bigger and shameless liars in the world.
And this isn't just about artists "taking inspiration". This is a blatant CORPORATE MANDATE. To make Warhammer look AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE to WoW in the hope to overlap the market and try to reach exactly that target.
in short, Abalieno appears to be saying they're making Warhammer look as close as possible to WoW and the "shameless lie" is their unwilingless to admit it.
My counter-point to it is simply, the screenshot presented as 'evidence' doesn't actually feel much like WoW. That very WoW which, again according to Abalieno, is to have its very own visual style to the point where "you can see at a glance if a screenshot comes from WoW."
This opinion about WoW having distinct visual style is something i actually agree with. Where we differ is rather, this new game that is supposed to blatantly copy that style... imo doesn't. The feel is different, to the point where in my eyes it resembles more a completely different game if anything at all.
but you can see fairly plainly that the lighting and shading are very similar, despite the fact that other more recent shaders could easily be implemented without too much processing overhead being added for a modern PC. For example, HDR Lighting has proven to be extremely popular, and depending on the card might not have much overhead at all
The lighting and shading is bound to be very similar because both games rely on the same lighting and shading equations/concepts that are shared and utilized by dozens of thousand of games by now. (and which were devised some 10 years before 8-bit computers made it to people households) If this is some sort of sign of "copying WoW" then... well, mind boggles tbh. It's not unlike claim a MMO with autoattack is copying WoW because it was given autoattack too... and hundreds of other games also having this exact same mechanics and utilizing it long before WoW was twinkle in its makers' eye are to be ignored.
Seriously, if a game is required to have HDR rendering and who knows what else just to avoid accusation it's ripping off WoW... then it's getting just tad bit too absurd.
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Re: Nope, this isn't about cartoonish style
To the contrary, because Abalieno's point is worded very precisely:
in short, Abalieno appears to be saying they're making Warhammer look as close as possible to WoW and the "shameless lie" is their unwilingless to admit it.
My counter-point to it is simply, the screenshot presented as 'evidence' doesn't actually feel much like WoW. That very WoW which, again according to Abalieno, is to have its very own visual style to the point where "you can see at a glance if a screenshot comes from WoW."
This opinion about WoW having distinct visual style is something i actually agree with. Where we differ is rather, this new game that is supposed to blatantly copy that style... imo doesn't. The feel is different, to the point where in my eyes it resembles more a completely different game if anything at all.
The lighting and shading is bound to be very similar because both games rely on the same lighting and shading equations/concepts that are shared and utilized by dozens of thousand of games by now. (and which were devised some 10 years before 8-bit computers made it to people households) If this is some sort of sign of "copying WoW" then... well, mind boggles tbh. It's not unlike claim a MMO with autoattack is copying WoW because it was given autoattack too... and hundreds of other games also having this exact same mechanics and utilizing it long before WoW was twinkle in its makers' eye are to be ignored.
Seriously, if a game is required to have HDR rendering and who knows what else just to avoid accusation it's ripping off WoW... then it's getting just tad bit too absurd.