WoW 1.11 patch notes

Another gimmick is the blue zandalar rewards will now be made into purples, with NO significant stat improvement.

ie new hunter belt has 2 more agility and 4 mana per 5 seconds instead of +11 arcane damage.

Like tier .5, it gives players the prestige of having epics without providing increased pve or pvp adavantage.

I dunno, the Zandalar Madcap (Rogue) ones came pretty close to Nightslayer in performance.

+2 agi and 4 mana / second is hardly "NO significant stat improvement"...they're weak epics, but were you really expecting ZG gear to be better than 40-man stuff?

And as someone working on the last step of Tier 0.5, I must say that I've enjoyed those quests much more than MC / Onyxia (outside of the stupid grinding). Raiding, contrary to what many raiders say and what non-raiders might think, is easy - it takes coordination, but almost no player skill whatsoever. Running a 45 minute Baron isn't super difficult, but a lot of monkeys clearing MC can't manage it.

i'm a monkey that has mc/onxyia/bwl and aq40 to the emps on farm status. i'll disagree with you on that. it takes a lot more than just coordination to make it in end game raiding. Mc, yea, you can basically PUG that one. but i can guarentee you that below par skilled players will not only wipe a raid in bwl/aq40 but that they will be more of a detriment.

on the plus note, with blizzard finally recognizing that ctraid is being used more than their raiding proviso ever has been, they are making a nod in the right direction. once they realize how much most hard core raiding guilds rely on alerts and mods for their boss encounters (Huhuran anyone? Nefarion as well) then they will see that by limiting the amount of interaction that these mods have within the game, they are simply making it more annoying for raiders and thus hurting their client base.

i look forward to this patch as blizzard seems to be identifying problems and, for once (nevermind their craptastic servers), resolving them.

i don't really agree with the zg change. but once again, i'm not making the calls just dropping an opinion. after all, i firmly believe in people earning their loots, and the rep system in zg worked just fine for me. i'm exalted on two characters and don't really see the issue. but then again, my guild runs zg with alts usually since taking our mains in there is overkill. after all, most of us already have exalted on our mains.

so, to say once more, not any monkey can raid. you need skilled and dedicated players who will learn their role in every encounter and who also have good instincts. but if you want, feel free to grab a PUG and have at bwl/aq40.

I was mostly referring to non-BWL and AQ in my above comments - I've never even seen those instances, and unless they're a huge change from MC I don't think I'd care to. I definitely maintain that any monkey can raid MC (and Ony and ZG to lesser degrees) - we have plenty of monkeys in our raid group and we've been progressing just fine. Blizz' releases have been getting better as they've progressed, so maybe BWL and on really are more fun. I hope so.

I guess my point was this: I consider Tier 1 and Tier 0 about equally noobish, and find it galling when people denigrate Tier 0.5 - especially when a good chunk of them have Tier 1.

Aside, I fully support the ZG upgrades - the instance is currently only good for enchants and the occasional epic. I believe you still need high rep to get the rewards, so they're hardly going to be free.

Not any monkey can raid. But a lot of good raiders have problems when an instance limits what roles can be present. I agree places like bwl and aq40 arent going to see pugs do well.

ctRaid is the single best tool for WoW, followed closely by voice chat. The fact Blizzard kept trying to break ctRaidAssist just shows how stupid Blizzard can be at times.

This ignores a huge issue, what about people that dont or cant spend almost all their game time running the big raids with a good raiding guild?

Sure the argument can be made the the truly epic gear is the result of great struggle, but to this point there is nearly no great gear for the players in small non raiding guilds. These players are as much into the game as raiders or pvp'ers so why not have good gear for the players that dont see raiding as a fun thing to do?

And as for the 45 minute Baron run, it takes skill, and some raiders are great at their role, but i have seen groups tear through the run, where a group of raiders fumble through because they lost the skill to improvise when sh#t hits the fan. Imoh, the best group for the run, 2 priests, 2 mages, and a druid.

Slapping a purple label on something with a ridiculously low item level and saying "here is a casual/non-raider friendly epic!" seems to be Tigole's solution to what is laughingly called WoW's itemization.

Apparently he thinks that, much like with the 0.5/D2 sets, players will simply be blinded by the purple text.

Just an FYI to all the douchebags, remember that little fix that allowed people to lose rank and still *****USE***** their upper level items?

Guesswhat? You can *****PURCHASE***** any items off of the vendors that you'd like at any time. Sure, you're rank 0 but bought way too much goldfarmer cash... time to buy the top rank items and keep them secure in your bank.

Go outside and sniff the sunshine, because obviously it would only pertain to you if you had any clue as to how it works.

All it requires is rank 6 to be able to get into the officer's quarters. But of course people with no first hand experience will write tripe like "About the PvP Honor armor sets, it is interesting to notice that they were upgraded, but not retroactively, nor it's possible for those who have the old armor sets to return them for new versions. You'll have to re-grind all the ranks all over again. FUN! FUN!!"

Idiot.

Actually... no. "You don't have the required rank for that item"

You can't buy an item that you do not have the required rank for, that is why people have a problem with the new Grand Marshal weapons (the caster items look very nice, although the lack of a Feral Druid Attack Power mace is disapointing) and Blue PvP sets in the first place.

On the patch notes as a whole, there are a lot of "things that should have been changed a while ago" that I'm glad they're changing at all. Fixing small annoying things like that along with pushing out new content (still catass content, but content regardless) is still really appreciated.

And without getting into a "well back in my day" rant, do you really need all the flashing lights and alarms (I'm really glad they removed healing's auto-canceling since that dumbed down raid healing down to "trained monkey" levels) to tell you a big dragon is going to eat your face? Even mods like SpellAlert are borderline cheap.

Mods need to go up to the line of "getting rid of annoying things, or doing a repatitive task right 95% of the time, like selecting healing ranks", not to playing the game for us (CTRA Emergency Moniter I'm looking in your direction).