FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

If the news of the forced server splits below your ass wasn't enough (my opinion is here), now we have this.

I still remember when Blizzard repeatedly promised to european players official support to play on the american servers. But "only after the european launch".

Then the european launch arrived and Blizzard completely ignored questions about this issue if not repeating that they didn't want european players on the american servers FOR THEIR OWN INTEREST. Because they were worried to provide a quality service and they didn't want us to experience too much lag or receive support in a language we don't understand. How cute.

Giving players the choice of course was above them.

With this last patch in preparation for The Burning Crusade they modified the TOS:

4. Limitations on Your Use of the Service.

A. You may only access the Service from within the territorial boundaries of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. Any access to your Account, whether by you or anyone else, from any location outside those countries is a breach of this Agreement.

So if you are an european player playing on the american server from today you are considered in the same league of gold farmers, exploiters, cheaters or hackers. You are breaking the terms of service.

Fuck you Blizzard.

One day you won't be anymore "king of the hill" and you'll start to pay one by one for all these fucking stupid choices.

I don't think that treating legit customers as criminals will payback. But till you are in a dominating position then you can afford just everything, even this shit.

P.S.
LOL. Someone remembers that in my proposed LFG tool I had suggested to use an animated demon eye to appear when the LFG flag is active? Well, after this last patch when you are flagged LFG (but only for the auto-join option) an animated demon eye appears near the mini map ;)

No, really.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Now, tell me why they did it, and you'll have me convinced that you're an informed opinion. Otherwise you are pissed they did something you can't explain when they might have had a good reason to do it.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Possibly they overshoot in an attempt to circumscribe gold farming / powerlevelling. But it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Nor any more reasonable.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

I'll concede that you have a point, in that Blizzard should clarify their position on US/Euro servers, even if it's just to say "we're still thinking about it." I'll also concede that the TOS modification is a bit silly.

However.

Blizzard has valid concerns. Supporting customers in their native language is important, especially to the customer. And when *you* lag because you're accessing a server in California from Spain, well it also makes the rest of your group and/or those around you lag. Your individual desire to access a US server from abroad may impact many US customers. Blizzard is right to be concerned about this.

Chalking their actions up to hubris is missing the mark. They're making a business decision to keep customers, not to drive them away. They may lose you as a customer, but they might lose a ton more customers by opening their servers to non-US customers.

Also, why do you want to play with US players? We're all asses. :)

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

They may lose you as a customer, but they might lose a ton more customers by opening their servers to non-US customers.

That's one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Is it really necessary to be such a flaming asshole to someone who takes the time to engage in honest discussion with you? Have a nice life Abalieno, I won't bother you with my stupidity further.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Yes. Do you really think that DAoC, or EQ or every other game lost "a ton" of customers by letting europeans playing on US servers?

Why don't you propose next to ban players depending on their average ping? Why don't you ban them if their videocard doesn't pushes enough FPS to play competitively? Why not banning those who die too much? Why not banning those who log out in the middle of an instance, or those who aren't on broadband?

It's stupid and I said it is.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Sometimes your actions fly in contradiction to your ideals Abalieno.

You can't have open discussion or expect to be taken seriously with comment's like "it's stupid" and "FUCK YOU".

Maybe this change in terms is stupid, but there's better ways to get your point accross than name-calling things you disagree with.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

He didn't say "Fuck you" to any natural person who could get insulted over it, it was a means of expressing anger and disappointment with a company. What do you think, that Blizzard is now upset with him for calling them names instead of openly recognizing the validity of his argument were he to have said "Oh dear Blizzard pretty pretty please realize this is the most dumbest and denigrating thing ever for european players"? If you cannot take mature language maybe that is your problem, but you can cut the high and mighty attitude please. We are not at the Sorbonne arguing over fundamental philosophic truths so that we can constantly fall back to some unnecessary manner debates (not that they would be needed now anyway).

As for replying to a stupid argument with "That is stupid", if you cannot take that and can only reply "I'm not loved here, I take my toys and go elsewhere", then again, that is a problem of your ego not of the guy stating "The argument is stupid".

I've had my differences with HRose on various boards so far, and I've come to respect him as opinionated, headstrong and direct. I don't care about fluff and diplomacy and not hurting random blogger feelings. It is his blog and I want to know what he thinks. If he thinks that someone is saying a stupid thing, he is well entitled to say that.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Whats that on your shoulder? A giant chip?

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I must be very honest, I have never liked Abalieno but this time I completely agree with him (I also agree on Mythic making a huge mistake with Scenarios). Blizzard has just gone too far and this will certainly be remembered by many Europeans, like me. Why should I be branded as being a criminal just because I want to play with my American friends?

I have played with Americans since the early days of DAoc. Should I just ditch my friends because Blizzard is being very unreasonable here? What on earth am I doing wrong? I am just playing the damn game and I pay for it. I never done anything to deserve this kind of treatment. I am a very honest citizen and have never done anything wrong in my life. Yet they act as if people like me are goldfamers and cheaters. And nobody just throws away friends because of stupid game. Blizzard will most certainly lose a whole lot of customers when they keep this up. Although I must be honest that I am very afraid that other companies such as SoE and EA-Mythic will start to do the same. For the MMO days will be over when that happens.

I refuse to play on European based servers that are hosted in France. I always get a far louzier ping with France than with America. And why is ping and localization all the sudden such a big issue when it wasn't some years ago? I never asked for European servers. I love playing together with my Americans friends, I also have met plenty of times in real life.

Another reason besides having no friends to play with when playing on a European server is language. On the English servers you will find people from all countries that don't have French, Spanish or German as the native language. And guess what? They will most of the time speak in their own language and know very little English. This doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun to me. I have experienced that before some years ago. And it is extremely annoying to play a game together with people that don't even understand you. As long as English is not the native language of all of Europe this will always happen. American servers never have this issue because people that play on there join those servers because they WANT to speak English. This is especially the case in a game such as WoW where you have to go through hoops to play on the American servers.

Anyway, I just guess my European money is dirty. When it is tax/money issue, I will gladly pay my taxes for Europe, but I would love to be able to play with my friends, thank you. Of course, Blizzard's rule will only hurt people like me but not the gold farmers, they will just keep on trucking like they always have.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

"I won't bother you with my stupidity further."

Oh no! What will the world do! You're only special in your own little tiny world. Who are you Amber?

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Sounds like you need to woman up.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

I read it as this -

They're better off trying to create some sort of boundry to keep demographics together rather than open up 'universal' servers. Universal servers -could- have many more people quitting due to having to deal with people that didn't speak their language. The frustration of spawn camping against a group of foreigners I can't communicate with doesn't sit highly on my to-do list.

I really doubt they'll be using this to pinpoint individuals. If you honestly believe that, you're probably not thinking very rationally. There is too much money on the table to be making any drastic changes that haven't been extensively well thought out.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Bite, people that join such servers, want them because they want to speak in the unverisal language that is English. On English servers based in Europe, you do get a whole lot of people that refuse to speak. type in English. But on "unverisal" servers such as the American servers, you will almost only find people who just want to speak English. People who don't want to have to use sign language to make themselves understood. Because that is truly what my experience has been like on European servers. That is one of the reasons I joined an American server to play DAoC and how I met a good amount of Americans (actually I met more before that because I have been a "tourguide" in Amsterdam).

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

So, your basiclly saying that you as an American player should be more of a value then the European players?

for when your saying that you don't want to play with alot of people that dosn't "speak your language" I take that as your either damn stupid (read below) or you think American players are more "importent" then Europeens!

Reason why I'm kinda thinking your a stupid brat, is that you seem to think that all europeens speaks the same language, either that, or you consider yourself more importent then us, you are well aware that people in Europe speaks different languages right? so do you say that WE should have to play with people not talking our language, but you don't? or are you saying that you think we all speak... german, or something?

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

"Blizzard has valid concerns."

You're either a sycophant, an idiot or just plain stupid.

I have four friends from the EU that play on the American servers and this TOS change makes them eligible for banning at any time. They've done nothing wrong.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Surely the obvious reason for this is so they can ban everyone on an american server with a chinese ip address?

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

It's more then just support too, it's also about which regional offices the accounts are paying. If all European customers bought accounts for US servers and played there then Blizzard Europe (or whatever) would eventually go broke from lack of subscriptions. Same goes for the Chinese and Korean server, they want to ensure the subscription money stays in the correct region so that employees can be paid and the local servers can be upgraded appropriately.

I remember how much it sucked to lose our international friends when beta ended. Personally I think the insane split mechanic is even worse then the TOS change. I could of sworn that I read all of this bragging about how the servers were being upgraded to handle the load for the BC and now this? How pathetic, and I thought the 300 person queues mid raid were bad.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

If all European customers bought accounts for US servers and played there then Blizzard Europe (or whatever) would eventually go broke from lack of subscriptions.

And this is stupid again. If ALL european customers decided to go play on the american servers then it would just mean that Blizzard is providing a service no one needs or wants.

Obviously this is not the case. Europe has almost more customers than the US.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Innsmouth, that is not entirely true. Europe has 1.5 million subscribers right now and America has 2 million. So they don't almost have more customers when you look at those numbers from mmogchart.com.

Potentially Europe could have more subscribers since Europe has a bigger population than America. Right now the European Union has more than 500 million inhabitants and there are even more Europeans than that. America just broke through the 300 million barrier, and I don't think that Australia/NZ/Singapore and Canada (they don't really have such a big population for such a big country) have enough inhabitants to hit the 500 million mark.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

And when *you* lag because you're accessing a server in California from Spain, well it also makes the rest of your group and/or those around you lag.

Hardly a valid reason since Australian/NZ/Singaporean traffic is routed halfway across the world to the US servers anyway.

Coming from down under myself, we wish Blizzard actually used this logic as we would have servers in our own country.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

LOL. Someone remembers that in my proposed LFG tool I had suggested to use an animated demon eye to appear when the LFG flag is active? Well, after this last patch when you are flagged LFG (but only for the auto-join option) an animated demon eye appears near the mini map ;)

No, really.

Do you honestly believe you were the only person with that idea? I would think that part is nothing to get upset about.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Just another Lurker with 2cents to throw in. First, I agree with you - that's absolutely retarded. Blizzard is definately crossing a line, as far as I'm concerned, in changing the TOS in such a way that legitimate, loyal customs who've invested a great deal of time, money, ect into their characters and online communities. I could accept no NEW european customers - but to say old ones are in break of contract? It's just not right. And if this was the other way around - Americans everywhere would be up IN ARMS, almost literally, with outrage.
Now, that being said - wtf? Whats with the come down on Amber? You, the one who goes on rants and tyraids about how important discussion and respect for others ideas are, blow up and tell him his opinion is 'the stupidest thing you've ever heard'? Wether his ideas are right or wrong ( and I'll admit, I'm leaning with them being wrong ), he's as much right to express his differing opinion as you do when you jump on another's boards and express yours.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Now, that being said - wtf? Whats with the come down on Amber? You, the one who goes on rants and tyraids about how important discussion and respect for others ideas are, blow up and tell him his opinion is 'the stupidest thing you've ever heard'? Wether his ideas are right or wrong ( and I'll admit, I'm leaning with them being wrong ), he's as much right to express his differing opinion as you do when you jump on another's boards and express yours.

That line I quoted was stupid. I don't have any other way to describe it.

I was actually VERY surprised when I noticed it came from her, because I respect her and have a very, very good opinion of her. I cannot even believe she said something so stupid.

That said, I also say stupid things sometimes. But I'm not surprised if then people point their fingers to me and say it was stupid.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

I'm not upset. Just registering that they implemented that idea exactly in the way I had described it.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

I think Lacero above probably nailed the reason for doing this. Most farmers are korean or chinese, so this is an easy way to ban them.

That being said, I think they should give everyone the option to transfer to EU servers for free or something, instead of just "Well you're screwed, might as well eBay your account before we ban you." In fact, I predict that they'll EVENTUALLY offer some sort of transfer service, after the first wave of bannings (is that even a word? bans maybe? bannifications?) hits and the forums go up in flames.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Bye bye! If it means thousands of less Chinese gold farmers, I'm all for it.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Errrrrr...., sorry to tell you, but that demon eye searching HAS always been there.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

One day you won't be anymore "king of the hill" and you'll start to pay one by one for all these fucking stupid choices.

It seems like you need to take a larger perspective on Blizzard as a company, they may currently be treating World of Warcraft as their nest-egg and only game, but they've already made a ton of revenue off of it and once the subscriber base dwindles (and it will) it's not like Blizzard will be out in the gutter lamenting their poor decisions that still landed them with the most popular MMO out there. In fact, I can't imagine any situation at all that they would end up "paying one by one" for their choices, they can just re-focus on their other INSANELY popular franchises like Starcraft or Diablo, or even any non MMO game that they want and still be one of the best videogame companies out there.

You're applying your personal feelings and angst on Blizzard, and imagining it'll have any sort of impact on them whatsoever, that the lose of their European-on-American-Server audience will cripple them greatly.

I won't say your quote there is the stupidest thing I've ever heard, but it's definitely stupid.

P.S. - the Demon Eye was a genius idea...when Blizzard used it in Warcraft III on Battle.net for team-finding.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Ah, this discussion is the reason that I play games released for Europe even if I have to pay more. We (americans) seem to love to argue for no real valuable reason. Please note: argue debate.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Abalieno/Innsmouth/Hrose

I'll never understand the plethora of names. It damages your credibility that you appear to hide behind multiple handles, so that it makes it difficult for astute readers to track onto your endless diatribes of bullshit.

Anyway, don't you find your post to be highly ironic? You accuse Blizzard of arrogance, and then you go on to arrogantly imply that YOU came up with the idea for the blinking LFG demon eye.. that Blizzard copied you? You appear to be delusional. Have you noticed that many of the icons in WoW are simply recycled from Warcraft 3? You probably know that the blinking eye was used on battlenet when players were doing the WC3 equivalent of LFG. How can you believe that it was your great idea, and yours alone? And please don't say 'well I was just pointing it out'. That cop-out does nothing to change the fact that you were trying to take credit for re-inventing the wheel.

For whatever reason, I've read your posts here for quite a while. Occasionally, out of the swirling mass of insanity, there would be a rational thought, a genuinely good idea. But sadly, it appears your lucid moments are growing few and far between. All the time I read you posting about your game design and what you've thought of that you then subtly imply has been stolen and used by various designers. It's possible, I suppose, that designers read your page and use your ideas, but it's highly unlikely. Don't you think it's arrogant on your part to presume that they are?

You go on a tirade about Mark Jacobs and his arrogance. You have zero tact, the definition of which escapes you. I'm a forum troll, I don't care if people take me seriously, but you are begging for credibility. You want people to regard you as some sort of MMORPG luminary. Yet, when Amber comes here and posts a dissenting opinion, you merely call her idea stupid. You go on to say you 'respect' her. People who respect each other don't dismiss each other's input merely as being stupid, especially not as rudely and tersely as you did. Don't you see that you're pissed that people dismiss your ideas as complete shit (which 99 times out of a 100 they are), but you can't help but arrogantly do it yourself. You claim to be above hypocrisy, but are amazingly unable to recognize that you are no better than the rest of us. By the way, even if Amber was completely wrong, I HIGHLY doubt that is the stupidest thing you have ever read. Have you ever read some of your own posts?

Speaking of the whole Jacobs thing, don't you think it arrogant on your part to presume that you know what happened between Jennings and Jacobs? Who the hell are you? You read the site and posted on the forums, so that makes you knowledgable about what does on behind the scenes? You're a wannabe amateur. You read Musashi's version of events, take it as gospel, and then draw wildly speculative conclusions. Could there been a conflict of interest? Perhaps. Do any of us have proof, or any reason other than pure speculation to believe that there was? No. What you said was just plain rude to Lum, who has treated you with courtesy and respect, and frankly, it was none of your damn business. You're so jealous of Lum being able to break into the industry, that you lash out in full swing hypocrisy. If you were in his position, you would have done the same damn thing. It also makes you look like a moron to post all these wild accusations, take your medication, and then come back with some bullshit about 'I didn't mean to imply you did anything wrong. I respect you.' If you're going to be a jackass, at least have the balls to stand by your jackassery (I must have been reading your site too long, now I'm creating new English words).

You obsess over these games. You claim to make wild notes that you can't interpret moments after you've jotted them down. You play every game that comes out, yet you have never, by your own admission, progressed very far in any of them. If your desire is to appear to be the mad-scientist (or is it hunchbacked bell-ringer) of the MMORPG community, you are definitely heading in the right direction. But really, what have you done to achieve what is obviously your dream to break into the industry. What skills have you learned? What can you do for the industry? It's hard to have your 'designs' taken seriously when there is absolutely no backbone to them. Lum was able to get into the industry, not just because he had a great site where he wrote eloquently, but because he actually had a skill the industry needed. You have nothing with which to market yourself, unless EA starts looking for someone to fill the wild-eyed, crazy, bearded guy-in-the-corner-cubicle position.

You post what is, at best, theory. Note the 'at best'. You have no understanding of the constraints with which a developer must operate. No concept of programming/hardware requirements of the wonderful ideas you have. Frankly, your ideas show you have little understanding of the kind of gameplay to be found in a good game. It's one thing to talk about your 'permeable barriers' and another thing to talk about specifics of how that should be implemented. You remind me of some of the anti-war protesters I spoke to recently. Them- "There needs to be world peace." Me- "How do you propose we make that happen?" Them- "I don't know but they better think of something"

It's great that you've found something with which to spend your time, something to think and write about, but isn't it all for nothing if you don't do anything about it? I mean, what is the point? You put it out there, state that you're never going to use it, and then point and shout 'I said that!!!!' every time someone else has an idea that vaguely resembles on of yours. Is your intent with this site to post all these ideas you think are so great, so that they become your property and will never be used? I think you regard yourself as some sort of troubled artist who no one will understand until years from now when people will say 'man, we should have listened to Abalieno/Hrose/Innsmouth/whateverthefuckhecalledhimself, he had it all right man. He knew it all!"

I read a lot of your comments about level 60 play in WoW, high-end RvR in DAoC, and things of that nature. Have you ever experienced ANY of them? No, having a level 60 in green and a couple blues doesn't count as high end play. Nor does a RR2/3 DAoC character who's been in a couple really bad RvR pickup groups. Your qualifications for all the bitching and criticizing you do, is almost entirely based on what you've read about other people's experiences. No, you don't have to play for Brazil to talk shit about soccer, but hell, it might help you to know what you're talking about to have at least played the game at some point!

I didn't mean for this half assed attempt at a flame to be this long, but once I got started, it just flowed out naturally. Summary: Abalieno embodies all the negative characteristics of which he accuses others. Abalieno is obviously troubled with various mental issues, narcissism definitely, schizophrenia (altered perception of reality) possibly. Abalieno is a pussy, and will never amount to shit unless he grows some balls and does something with his life/ideas.

Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all or some shit like that.

P.S.- Abalieno, doesn't it strike you as neglectful that your parents would leave you alone in the house as a four year old to play with construction materials, and odd that this neglect is one of your fondest moments in early life?

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

It's great that you've found something with which to spend your time, something to think and write about, but isn't it all for nothing if you don't do anything about it? I mean, what is the point?

I think he realized this and that's why he's decided to stop (or as it looks currently, cut back) on writing here. Which is a pity, because while Abalieno may lack experience, he's got vision and that's something we need more of in the MMO industry these days IMO.

Besides, if you don't like what he's saying, why are you reading his blog?

(Though I do agree with you on the multiple screennames thing. Pick one plz ^^)

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Speaking of the whole Jacobs thing, don't you think it arrogant on your part to presume that you know what happened between Jennings and Jacobs?

I never presumed anything. Lum said that he never talked with Mark all that much. I don't think there was anything going on between the two, beside the fact that Lum was hired.

He probably spoke with Mark just a few more times than he speaks now with Lord British.

What I presumed there was implicit. The fact that Lum was simply between two fires. Mythic and the forum/site people. He tried more then once to get his feet out of that mess. But, again, this whole thing is not what I commented (or my actual purpose). I only wanted to criticize how Mark Jacobs ordered Mythic staff to never post again on those boards after the honeymoon was over.

Which is the exact same stuff that happened in that thread nowadays:
So, I'll offer my apologies for what has happened in this thread and go back to lurking.

You're so jealous of Lum being able to break into the industry

Jealousy is not my thing. I have a VERY high esteem of Lum and in fact it hurts when he attacks me back because I give a lot of weight to what he says. So what he says doesn't leave me indifferent. But I'm not jealous. He has all the rights to be where he is and then more.

I WISH the industry had also a place for me. I wish I could be legitimately part of that group. But as an addition, not as a replacement. I've learnt a lot from all those people, and still have a lot to learn. My desire would be to be there with them. Not be there in their place. And, yes, I struggled a lot for credibility. I struggled to demonstrate my ideas were worth something. That's all.

If you were in his position, you would have done the same damn thing.

Which is the exact thing I wrote him. I would have done exactly the same thing. And this was my opinion from the very beginning.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

It must seem like everyone is having a go at the moment, but ignoring the minutiae of who said or claimed what, I perhaps wonder if you are fully aware of the language of your posts.

I don't say this to be condescending or anything but constructive, but you're Italian, right? Your English is obviously almost perfectly fluent. The only reason I mention this is because while at university I lived with a foreign (from my point of view, obviously :) ) flatmate, and that while his English was all but perfect, he had a slightly confrontational way of speaking. My girlfriend at the time was a native of his country, and explained that he never spoke this way in his own language.

He often had problems of perception. Now, I realise that you're probably fully aware of your impact when you write "FUCK YOU Blizzard", which for the record I think is childish at best, but I wonder if some of the direct manner of your posts is a slight lack of insight into properly idiomatic English.

Either way, you should be aware (if you aren't already and it's not deliberate) that your posts occasionally cross the line between direct and plain rude.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

In defense (or for the Brits, defence) of Abalieno, us Europeans tend to be more direct than the average American. We unlike the Americans don't beat around the bush and won't try to soften the blow. When the blow comes it will sting no matter what and always with the same force.

You could call his "fuck you" childish. That is something that may be true. But honestly, I thought the exact same thing when I read about the ToS change the other day. It is really a blow below the belt from Blizzard. And this especially since they told us during alpha and beta that we would get the chance to play with our American friends. And of course, this never happened. There are plenty of Europeans who have never asked for their own servers because they came from previous games without such restrictions. It is really funny that people claim that one of the problems is, us causing lag. But yet they still allow players from the Oceanic region and their ping is far worse than ours. I never even have above 300 or 500 ms, yet Aussies do. So if we are out because of that reason, so should they. But I am not that kind of person. I think anyone who can speak English should have a right to play wherever he wants, with his real friends. Sue me for having American friends because I am well travelled.

So in other words, I can understand where Abalieno is coming from.

P.S.: I am also starting to understand him more about the thing with Mark Jacobs. Not really because of something in the past, but because Mark Jacobs says one thing and some months later does a complete 180 degrees on it. And he usually does that on things he very firm about, such as no RMT or voice chat. He already backpaddled partially on one and completely on the other thing. I used to have a lot of respect for this guy, but not any longer. When you tell the "whole world" that you hate RMT with all your heart, you should stick to it or otherwise don't say this in interviews when you don't mean it.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

This is BS on Blizzards part. Fuck them.

Residing in the US (Michigan) I refuse to play a game if I can't play with my Euro (EU) brothers and sisters.

I find it hard to believe with all they're resources they can't solve the lag and farmer issues.

Fuck them.

No more $ from me.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Am I the only one that sees this like a good reason to ban every gold farmer that doesn't bot and that doesn't seem directly involved with trading large sums of money (hence, you can't prove that he did something wrong, but you know he's involved in the scheme). A gold farmer that abides to the ToS is hard to ban...

I'm pretty sure Blizzard will never ban anyone from Europe, this is more like a way to cover their ass when they start banning gold farmer accounts left and right...

And even though I happen to stop by once or twice, I do agree that most of the ideas that used to be posted here missed ways of implementation, I mean, it's really easy to say "lets do this", but sometimes it is close to impossible to program / develop. It's like an architect saying they should make a building like an inverted pyramid and trying to defend it, even though physically it'd be almost impossible to exist or build.

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

Lets face it farmers are not stupid they will be using US IP addresses, there is no way that this change in the TOS will make any difference to them. All this does is hurt the consumer. Thank god this is not in effect on the WoW EU servers. I started playing WoW when based in the UK now I travel as part of my job, what should I do, buy a new version and start a new character everytime I am in a new region? or put up with bad lag and latency issues which I appreciate are because of my location rather than Blizzards servers.

Simply not thought through Blizzard!

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

I suggest you all take a trip to labbb.org and chek up on blizzard, you'd be suprised at the shit they're pulling. not to mention they might own the third party gold farming sites.....

go check the 60,000 ban page on this website and read the comments

probability is that, you'll be saying fuck you to blizzard too...

Re: FUCK YOU Blizzard, dearly

fuck you burning crustade
.. fuck you all of my life...

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