These screenshots are worth a *ban*!

You should be praying to the gods for change not complaining about your lot in life. Go try this at a church if you think killing shouldn't be a sin. :P

"You should be praying to the gods for change not complaining about your lot in life. Go try this at a church if you think killing shouldn't be a sin. :P"

Err... what?

Terrorism? Are you serious? You MUST be American :P

"You MUST be American"

The correct statement is, 'You must be republican'

"The correct statement is, 'You must be republican'"

No, the correct statement is you must be a Clinton.

That makes no sense.

No, the correct statement is you must be a Clinton.

no, the correct answer is your a dumbass

Thanks for correcting those who think all Americans are myopic and reactionary. The notion of "cyber-terrorism" is at once ridiculous and conflated with true acts of terror, diminishing the real dangers.

Really, the poster calling a protest within a *video game* an act of terrorism should be ashamed of themselves. It's quite a luxury to not only have a computer with internet access, but to play a costly video game and pay for account subscriptions.

When did "terrorism" become a buzz word? And whoever made the "You must be American" comment is just as bad.

That is so ture. Its a wonder why more people dont like Canadians.

How sad you simple minded socialist. Making a comment like that over a game? What gives, are you really so jealous you must try and offend others with an utterly stupid comment? Well I guess we all know your intelligence level now. Poor poor, pitiful jealous socialist. They always hate those that are correct--- that is until they need the “Americans� to save their sorry socialist A$$es.

Just shut the fuck up to whoever said "This sort of behavior is a form of terrorism". Many people who have suffered from real terrorist attacks will feel the same way.

I'm sorry, but despite your arguments to the contrary this is a form of terrorism. If you follow tech news they refer to this as cyber-terrorism. I never said it equates to the type of terror where lives are taken, but it certainly is trying to scare Blizzard into making changes.

Like I said before, the Warrior class needs a bump, but the game has many glaring bugs that need fixing long before you do.

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

Destroying New York's largest skyscrapers and burying thousands of poor innocent in piles of melting iron in an attempt to coerce or provoke = terrorism

Logging onto a video game and making your little gnome stand in front of a building = not terrorism.

If you disagree, look at those two acts I describe and tell me which terrorizes you more.

Funny, that just about covers every single "war" the US has been in.

It says "unlawful use". Sovereign states have the lawful right to openly declare war on other sovereign states and to use force against them.

If you want an example of "unlawful" use of force, I suggest you google for "Boston Tea Party."

The US hasn't declared war officially since the end of World War II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States)

The Korean war was not authorised by Congress.

If I remember correctly, there was no official treaty at the 'end' of the Korean war either, which means it's still going (between north and south korea).

BTW: I'm not American, and I don't give a rat's ass about the game protest. Just an FYI.

But anyway, the point was, pretty much every conflict the USA has been in since WW2 has not been officially declared as war and therefore could be considered terrorism by the previously cited definition (by virtue that the us constitution says congress has this power, not the president and could be viewed as illegal despite the 'authorizations of force' issued by congress)

that's just my 2c

Gulf War I (1991) was legally declared. It never offically *ended*...

what small small world do you live in that you can even imply that

Protest: An individual or collective gesture or display of disapproval.

Terrorize: A systematic use of terror, violence, and intimidation to achieve an end.

So tech news want you to believe this is cyber-terrorism! Buddy you need to go back to reading pop-up ginger bread books if you believe them.

Where you intimidated by them? Did they physically hurt you? But I guarantee your still on that server playing with the terrorist right?

So where's your morales then? I say you and the rest of the people complaining about it is because you didn't think of it first. What this shows is how you crossed over from reality and are confusing your fantasy reality in real life. It's a game! But then again you probably ended up having to spend quality time with your family for the time the server was down and that created an inconvenience for you. An act of terror in your eyes.

Holy crap. You're saying people can do one act that should be limited to real life "A protest" but not another act, "Terrorism"? This WAS a scare tactic. This was designed to make blizzard worry. "Oh crap, they'll keep crashing our servers till we do something!" Right, that's not terrorism? Don't be stupid pal. Too late.

and i bet your still on this planet. with all these terrorist's!
dumb ass

Actually, this sort of behavior is protected in the Bill of Rights.

(copy and paste)
Right to Peaceably Assemble -- history and definition

The right to peacefully gather and parade or demonstrate to make one's views known or to support or oppose a public policy is based upon the twin guarantees of the freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble.
(end snip)

So excercising ones rights makes one a terrorist. Fucking awesome!

The First Amendment applies to government, not private companies and their products.

You are sorta correct. This where the boundrys of our Constitution would not apply. For one to do a protest it isn't as easy as just going down town and wearing a sign. There are files that need to be filled. Local authorty has to be alearted and you are not to block or hamper in any way public streets or commerical, resdentual, or industrial streets or bussiness. What they did was wrong. Instead of doing a protest why dosn't someone just make up a forum post about all that needs to be changed. M 2 $

I suppose then that Martin Luther King, Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi were terrorists too?

I suppose then that Martin Luther King, Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi were terrorists too?

well they both got wasted by the CIA...
k it wasnt the CIA in mahatma's time i know...

Stranger: " but it certainly is trying to scare Blizzard into making changes."

Ironic that this cyber-terrorism, just like real life terrorism, works. Because of media everybody now knows about this situation and Blizzard is forced to act in one way or another. They *have* to respond: that was where the "cyber-terrorists" were aiming. "Cyber-terrorist" is a good term because cyber-terrorism has many similiarities to real life terrorism.

Be it either good or bad for the protestors, they really made sure they were heard.

"I'm sorry, but despite your arguments to the contrary this is a form of terrorism. If you follow tech news they refer to this as cyber-terrorism. I never said it equates to the type of terror where lives are taken, but it certainly is trying to scare Blizzard into making changes."

It's called a DEMONSTRATION. You know.. much like in the DEMOCRATIC countries where something unnerves the people to a point of breaking? It's called standing up for what you believe in in a non-violent way. Perhaps you have heard of such activities? It is the PURPOSE of a demonstration to show the company in question of the unhappiness of the general public and/or the employees. So this is ok in real life, but bringing it into the realm of Roleplaying (you know.. RPing a character as to how he/she would react in certain situations to the best of the player's ability in order to make the game as real as possible) is suddenly a form of terrorism? You lack the intelligence to speak any further.

Its more civil disobedience, screwing with your game play for a few hours isent terrorisim and is an insult to people who were actual victims of terrorisim.

Jesuz what a pansy boy! Instead of calling it terrorism, why not go cry to your momma about it?

If someone protests for free speech according to the first amendment, are you going to call them terrorists? Before all brainwashing the government has apparently done to the new generation of people, people who protested used to be called Heroes. Patriots. Standing up for your Principles. Resisting Tyranny.

I really feel for people in the next decade or so. You guys are going to be living like North Koreans or Russians. Say something the government doesn't like and off to the re education camps for 10 years. Your neighbors are all going to be government informants who turn you in for "wrong thinking". Secret police dragging people off for detention without charge and torture like the Stasi or the KGB or the communist cadres in China.

Oh Wait! That has already happened hasn't it? Detention without charge and torture? The government program to have your postman, gas reader, electric reader and deliveryman inform on you? The "reeducation camp" of your Television, spewing out lies and absurdities just like the video in the book Big Brother did.

I agree that terrorism is a terrible thing, and that this incedent should not be linked to being as such. This is civil disobedience, at best. They were not attempting to strike real fear into anyone. If it was real terrorism, then these people would have likely been arrested, not suspended.

I hope in your comment, though, that you are not trying to label this as an example of Blizzard's suppression of free speech. The participants said what they meant to say, have forums to do so, and (on top of all of this) free speech rights do not include privately owned servers on a computer game. If this was a government-owned game sure, but as it stands, the game world is the cyber-equivalent to private property, and as private property, Blizzard has the right to remove people from their premises.

I saw a story yesterday on the newswires about a poll of high school students in the US where 36% of the students felt that newspapers shouldn't be allowed to print stories without running them by the government first. Nice to see your next generation working so hard to preserve those freedoms your forefathers died for.
Wonder if any of them think Karl Marx was one of the Founding Fathers?

I read earlier that someone said to this - "you must be a republican"... Well.. if he/she only were a republican! In fact, he/she probably is the brainwashed result of the shrub administration, and now you can see where it's all heading too. See - this is what the bushies did - they used terrorism to justify every pitiful idiotic wish that they had, and slowly terrorism has become this monster that everyone's affraid of... You people need a grip! I know shrub has probably pronounced the words terror/terrorism more than his own name, but don't fall into that trap - use whatever natural reason you have to try understanding what is really going on!
You should see this as a public protest - basically, citizens of an on-line community claiming their rights. A community whose state is Blizzard; a community which raises taxes - just like the real state! You should, in fact, learn to appreciate their effort - after all, they've opened a path others might use when the game will prove deficitary to them; after all - the "taxes" that you pay entitle you to ask for the best product available - and that's just what those people did!
Again, I beg you, do not apply the label of "terrorism" to just anything that you don't like or disapprove. You know why? I'll tell you a story.
Around the 1680's there was this dude from Great Britain called Thomas Hobbes, and this dude wrote a book called "Leviathan", which is one of the fundaments of the neo-conservatives behind the shrub administration. To make a long story short - this dude says that society was formed from the necessity of protection, that men are too weak to protect by themselves, and that is why men need to entrust all their power to this Leviathan, to a leader, that will offer them protection. Basically, if you are attacked by someone with an ax, than you will offer all your powers to someone else that has a rifle - so that the rifle-guy can protect you. However, question no. 1: who is to protect you, now, against the guy with the rifle? Besides, the condition for the existence of society is fear of the Leviathan, the ruler has to have absolute power so that no one will dare to atack you, knowing that the punishment will certainly come from this strong ruler. Giving all your power to this leviathan means also giving up your rights to the leviathan, so that he can protect your life. In Hobbes' view, an atack on the Leviathan, a lack of leviathan (including a lack in his powers to take away your rights) would mean a return to the initial state when you had no protection against criminals, and this is the worst possbile thing in his opinion. and even though you might think that no one would dare to attack such a strong society, such as the one ruled by the leviathan - here come the irational fundamentalists, who couldn't care less for your leviathan or his punishments! Why are they dangerous, from a Hobbesian perspective? Because they are a threat to the Leviathan, and thus to the existence of the whole state. This means only that they have to be stopped, at what ever cost (including the cost of your liberties). Upon these grounds the shrubs are trying to restrict your freedoms, asuming that role of the leviathan and throwing terrorism in your face with every opportunity to make you actually want their diminishing your rights, etc. etc. Why this theory is flawed, think it over yourself. I know it's difficult, and I know I've expressed the theory quite with some difficulty, but it's really late here and I need my sleep. I hope you make something out of it. If not, look for Hobbes on the internet - and whatever you do, don't read the neo-con/straussian perspective of it!

Are you a frickin idiot... Haven't you heard of a "sit it" you stupid nazi spunk lick?!?!

thats sit in stupid

... *sigh* Everyone's either gay, stupid, or a terrorist. I love how people use that as a blanket insult. Utterly pointless.

I have to say that protesting something is not terrorism, it’s a freedom to voice your opinion that many in the world do not enjoy. Where you do it (online or in public) makes no difference. It shows blizzard that there is a huge amount of upset players and they would like something to be done about their problem. Please stop throwing terrorism around lightly it degrades the seriousness of the word, to think that someone’s "GAMING" experience was ruined by terrorism is ridiculous, there are more important (real) things that terrorism disrupts (how about the everyday lives of the Iraqi people).

I have to say that protesting something is not terrorism, it’s a freedom to voice your opinion that many in the world do not enjoy. Where you do it (online or in public) makes no difference. It shows blizzard that there is a huge amount of upset players and they would like something to be done about their problem. Please stop throwing terrorism around lightly it degrades the seriousness of the word, to think that someone’s "GAMING" experience was ruined by terrorism is ridiculous, there are more important (real) things that terrorism disrupts (how about the everyday lives of the Iraqi people).

Terrorism is any Millitary action that is bent towards and Political goal. So that Means GW is a terrorist bastard aswell. Back unto the Topic of people relating this game to Real life events... You guys are realy sad. I mean come on, this is a game. That might come as a shock to some of you. There isnt some hidden meaning becides going out and doing what you want. There isnt any Political Value of this game at all.... Good Job warriors. Stick it to em!

And how did this protest ruin your game play?

I really hope Bliz acts like Ubi-soft and bans all non-us accounts after the Euro release hits, and not allow the account to be transfered.

A suspension is far different than a ban. Ruining other people's gameplay experience is not a fair way to argue your point to the company. "If I can't have it, nobody else can!" - That is a very stupid mindset and highly selfish. And it isn't an issue about company/player relations in the first place. These people violated the Terms of Use, and were properly punished. People just need to learn to be patient. Blizzard is hearing your cries for help - just give them time to do it right.

"A suspension is far different than a ban. Ruining other people's gameplay experience is not a fair way to argue your point to the company. "If I can't have it, nobody else can!" - That is a very stupid mindset and highly selfish."

Now wait just a minute! Our great leader, President George Bush says otherwise. You are a nobody. Why should I listen to you?

George Bush said to the world "If Saddam doesn't do thinks our way, we are gonna kill him, his sons, and half of the people in his country".

And it worked! Saddam didn't do what George wanted. Saddam's kids are in dead, Saddam is in jail and they are killing the people in the country as we speak. I would say that George "ruined the Iraqis experience of gameplay on the game Planet Earth"

If our great leader, President George Bush role modeled this behavior for all of us loyal subjects, then it has to be right. I am calling the CIA and reporting you for wrong thinking. ;)

I can't believe you actually flamed the one intelligent thought on this board.

Oh, and BTW, can we keep governmental politics out of one discussion for a change? I don't give two shits what your views of the Bush Administration is. And I'm pretty sure that no one else does either.

And just a thought, before you go trashing what has happened in Iraq, serve one fucking day in uniform. Then, and only then do you get the right, in my eyes, to voice your warped opinion about the subject.

To me, you're a 2nd class citizen.

I agree that the comment you refer is in the wrong place, but i feel that your comment is much more disturbing and reactinary.

BTW, what the hell does serving have to do with seeing that a war is illogical, illegal, and immoral? So all the enlisted people that want out, or wont re-enlist, what about them? What about the people that come home and protest the war? Are they all second class? How the hell do you know if the poster served or not?

Your comments are truly un-American. According to the principles that MY country was founded on, all people are the same. Vet or not. No second class. They still have classes, called castes, in India. Go there. Your polemic is like poison to a true America.

i know that you feel all patriotic and all but you are killing my country slowly, and i hate that.

Oh, and good job on WoW, B.

From your statement: "serve one fucking day in uniform. Then, and only then do you get the right, in my eyes, to voice your warped opinion", one can assume that you mean that unless one has served thier country (in uniform) they have no right to an opinion? Huh, doesn't sound like freedom at all...

In fact, sounds an awful lot like Robert A. Heinlein's "Starship Troopers". In his book, on edoes not have the right to vote unless they have served. All otehr ARE 2nd class citizens (in fact, i'm not even sure if they are considered that).

What a great idea that would be... *sarcasm* So much for freedom.

Let's not even mention how your comment just pisses all over the right to free speach.